07 : SEPT : 08
Interview by Christoph
As
Artist doing a record always means thinking about the last release
and what could be done other/better…. In your case: What do
you see as the main difference between “The Devil’s
Outlaws” and “Revenge Served cold”? (Apart from
the fact, that it is new and feels better;-))
ZooG: BLOOD DEATH IVORY kicks
serious ass. We’re confident that it is different to KRANKHAUS
is many ways. The actual songs, the lyrics, the message behind it,
the artwork, the detail in the photos and costumes and the sonic
detail. We worked on this album constantly whilst in Berlin –
we believe it reflects the AWESOME experience we had there!
Destroyx: I don’t always
think that doing a new CD means you need to reflect on our last
release because a CD is always the product of the time period in
which it was made. So it reflects what we were going through as
people at that time. I’m happy with Krankhaus and equally
so with our new album. I don’t need to compare them because
we’re exploring different things in our new album.
Your new album is called “Blood
Death Ivory”… How about the ivory in the title? Does
it stress the noble and hedonistic side of your musical world? At
least it seems to be a surprising twist within the title…
Destroyx: I came up with the title
when I was working on an art book project. I was playing around
with the symbolism of the colours red, black and white and I came
up with the title “Blood Death Ivory”. I think the ivory
is inspired a lot by research into Victoriana when ivory was still
used at the time. Also, I went to a fantastic exhibition in Berlin
which showcased the use of ivory in religious relics, so I must
have been thinking quite a lot about ivory and the connotations
behind the word when we were writing the CD.
ZooG: I do like the your interpretation
of the album title. Our life as musicians could be idealised as
being “noble and hedonistic”, but in reality it probably
isn’t! It’s just a lot of hard work. The title is also
a metaphor for the resurrection in some ways.
"Meat" would have made for a
nice title-word, too. Unfortunately I don’t have any lyrics
yet, but there seems to be quite a lot of cannibalism going on in
your songs. What fascinates you about this issue? The sexual component,
the bodily aspect of making another being a part of yourself by
actually eating it? Its interesting, that cannibalism is fascinating
mankind since it exists, a fact that is mirrored in many folklore
fairytales (even in Europe) and stuff like that…
| "We
have a track on Blood Death ivory called Devilicious, the
vocal hook is “Your body in my mouth, Devilicious”….
it’s about the tender act of cannibalism, you can not
intimately know someone unless you eat them…right?"
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Angelspit |
Destroyx: We have written quite
a few tracks about cannibalism… Actually I think it’s
a main lyrical theme for us. All of the things that you mentioned
fascinate us. I think that the historical side is one of the most
interesting. What motivates people to become cannibals is interesting,
but what is more interesting is that it’s such a social taboo
to even talk about.
ZooG: We have a track on Blood
Death ivory called Devilicious, the vocal hook is “Your body
in my mouth, Devilicious”…. it’s about the tender
act of cannibalism, you can not intimately know someone unless you
eat them…right? Cannibalism doesn’t hurt people, love
hurts people!
About the music: I had the impression,
that the vocals became a bit more diverse. ZooG seems to contribute
more extra vocals, compared to “Krankhaus”. Or is this
just a subjective feeling?
ZooG: We’re trying to sing
more and we’re always trying to push what we do. There’s
a track called “Lust Worthy” – and it’s
a very creepy lullaby. We’re trying to sing in that gentle
tone your parents use to lull you to sleep which fits in with the
theme of the song (the song is about the dark alternative community
being lulled to sleep).
Destroyx: I think that overall
we’ve both pushed ourselves to sing a little more and try
new things with vocals and their arrangement. It’s fun to
try out new ways of using your voice.
One thing that’s really fascinating
me about your music is that you almost renounce using melodic instruments.
There’s almost nothing like Synth-ambiences or clean guitarchords
or sung melodies… Yet, you reach a certain catchyness…based
on rhythm. Isn’t it really hard to keep the balance between
experimental and non-melodic-elements and music people would like
to dance or listen to?
ZooG: Well spotted! At the core
of all of our tracks is a pop song (more on that later). We always
lace a simple and effective idea with chaos and poison. There are
mostly riffs that spell out the harmonic shape, but we NEVER use
chords. There is chordal movement used in the vocoders, but it’s
about building tension and atmosphere, not spelling out a chordal
movement.
On a primitive level, our music is based on drones – one note
that pedals through the entire song. We can build big complex scales
and harmonics that have a sense of order because they are based
on one note. Within these boundaries, a melody can go anywhere (even
quarter tones) and when you go back to the main note it all makes
sense.
Our music is not diatonic – yet the vocals
and riffs always stick to simple and digestible notes…like
the blues scale or a minor pentatonic scale – it’s all
based on simplicity embellished with complexity.
…and that’s why it takes 80 hours for us to complete
one track…!
Destroyx: I am pleased that you
noticed that in our music. We are experiementing with making noise,
interesting sampled sounds and harsh electronics into rhythmic and
catchy tunes. It's hard to keep the balance between totally alienating
the audience and being too pop, but I think that we're one of the
only bands doing this kind of thing at the moment, so I think that
the newness of what we're trying to do is refreshing for the audience
even if we don't always get it right.
Besides the Goth and Electro-Scene: Are
you interested in completely different musical genres like Hiphop
for example? On the one hand you are working a lot with the lyrical
flow, on the other hand – in my opinion – there’s
some stuff by artists like Missy Elliot, that is rhythmically inspiring,
even if you are not into Black music in general
ZooG: We are not influenced by
the goth scene…it bores the shit out of us.
Destroyx: We are interested in
an extremely wide variety of music. I would say that we believe
that every musical style has something to teach us. I think that
if you listen closely to the new CD, you will notice that we've
incorporated a lot of diverse beats, ones found in hip hop, ones
found in Indian Raga music and many more. We're not trying to follow
current trends, we're just trying to making engaging music. I like
a lot of hip hop music, especially the beats, but generally I find
a lot of the lyrics a little alienating. I am most inspired by music
from the 90's- bands like Sonic Youth, Nirvana, Rage Against the
Machine etc… although our music may not sound like those bands,
it's all about their attitude.
Would you mind, if someone talked about
a certain pop-appeal of your music?
ZooG: We like music you can yell
along too.
Destroyx: We love a good pop song.
It's a compliment to say that we have a pop appeal, because that
means that the tune is catchy and that is the ultimate compliment
for us. I think it's much easier to write a deconstructed arty song
than it is to write a succinct catchy pop tune.
Besides music, the visual side is very
important for Angelspit. Wouldn’t it be perfect to do something
like an Angelspit-comicbook or a film? With the surreal and unsettled
(unsettling?) imagery, that is part of your work, I guess even Quentin
Tarantino could become interested… maybe he’d do “Kill
Kitty I + II”;-)…
ZooG: I would love to do a film
with the Japanese director of the Grudge and Ring movies. I think
that the dark unnerving nature of his films would compliment our
music. We also love Quentin Tarantino films so who knows? One day
maybe we will collaborate on something. We are always looking for
talented photographers, film makers and artists to collaborate with,
because we believe that working with the best people is important
in creating the best work you can create… other artistic people
push you into doing things you aren't comfortable with because everyone
thinks differently and that's the best thing about collaboration.
Destroyx: I would absolutely adore
working with film makers. I think that film is the best union between
music and visuals and it's probably going to be the next step for
Angelspit. We're currently trying to get a team together for a video
clip, so who knows… in a few years maybe we'll do a film?
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